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for the sake of argument. liz

a friend posted a note about prop 8 on facebook. he's telling his friends why he thinks they should vote "no". (for the ppl who arent in the US, prop 8 is about eliminating right of same-sex couples to marry). a friend of his explained why she voted "yes". i disagree so i commented. i know this discussion will go nowhere as she already voted "yes" and i definitely will vote "no" (which reminds me... i should fill out and send my absentee ballot... i know, i know). but i like to argue for the sake of argument lol

also, when in an argument, i like to see both sides and try to understand them. i may not agree. but i'm open to hearing what they have to say. but no matter how hard i look and try... i cannot seem to understand why anyone would disagree with gay marriage.

i'm confused.

btw, she called me "liz" in a response. for the ppl that dont know, i HATE being called liz. like wtf? it clearly states Eliza. not eLIZa. why are you calling me liz?! sigh.

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arnogseel
Oct. 30th, 2008 08:18 pm (UTC)
the link i gave you is the official prop site. to confirmed, i asked my friend, who works for the senator, to send me the link. it's the same link. this information is the same on the ballots and booklets that the gov send ppl.

on this link, there is NOTHING on it that say anything about forcing schools or church to do anything they dont want.

you can read the rebuttal here: http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/argu-rebut/argu-rebutt8.htm

Don’t be tricked by scare tactics.

* PROP. 8 DOESN’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SCHOOLS

There’s NOT ONE WORD IN 8 ABOUT EDUCATION. In fact, local school districts and parents—not the state—develop health education programs for their schools.

NO CHILD CAN BE FORCED, AGAINST THE WILL OF THEIR PARENTS, TO BE TAUGHT ANYTHING about health and family issues. CALIFORNIA LAW PROHIBITS IT.

And NOTHING IN STATE LAW REQUIRES THE MENTION OF MARRIAGE IN KINDERGARTEN!
basicstories
Oct. 31st, 2008 09:59 pm (UTC)
Schools can't teach anything about marriage. But Prop 8 does make it so schools have to acknowledge it and accept it which some people cannot accept. Also it's different for various states.

Actually, the truth to prop 8 all boils down to money and benefits that a sanctioned marriage provides. It's not even about marriage, it's about the legal aspects of it. Gay people just want the same benefits straights couples get. Perosnally I don't see anything wrong with that.

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